And its usually charging you in a self-defense situation where youre trying to penetrate all that meat, gristle and bone in the way of its vital organs. At 50yds not much will walk away from a hit with that bullet. You can also use a hunting rifle or pistol to fire at the lion if it makes a charge at you. do revolvers. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. Brown bear commonsense options: You should just mount a 50 cal. Just my thoughts!! But Garrett makes a round called hammer head. I see a lot of Blackhawk advocates. My two cents. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Babb said the attack occurred while the boy and his family were taking a break from riding all-terrain vehicles. I stopped the pickup and as it went down the incline one shot hit the abdominal cavity and another between the shoulder blades, it crawled about two feet and died. Ill take the capacity of an auto loader in 45 Super, 10mm or Rowland any day. The way I see it there exists no substitute for accuracy, proper shot placement, and I know there are some folks out there that carry handguns in the bush, but in a dozen years I didnt meet many, either agency folks or sportsmen. The black bears have been stopped with pistols, rifles, shotguns and once with an ax. I have skinned three browns, two grizzlies and more black bears than I care to remember. Now I know, what to expect and what to carry. The Casull is an updated and slightly elongated version of the .45 Colt, fully capable of firing .45 Colt ammunition. My handloads push a 300-grain hard-cast bullet to 1,614 fps. Personally, Ive only seen a grizzly bear from the comfortable confines of a vehicle, but that boar in Yellowstone Park made a lasting impression. Those pesky day to day perils of life keep getting in the way. In general, 10mm, .44 magnum, or better seems like the best choices (including .454 Casull). I decently placed 5.56 will kill anything in north america. A mountain lion has slaughtered 27 lambs on a farm in Northern California but did not eat a single one. These people were lucky they didnt get rabies. And if he could run too fast, any caliber will work for knee caps!!!! Plus spray gives you a non-lethal way of dealing with somebody's "loving" pet. You have entered an incorrect email address! If I gotta shoot something that wants to eat me ! This is no problem as we are talking about a custom pistol anyway. not litter the landscape. Now before we take a look at particular models and calibers, lets get one basic premise out of the way: when the excrement hits the oscillator, any gun is better than no gun. Although lighter than what one would think of as bear protection, the authors .38 Special is extremely compact, lightweight and portable. Its often with me in bear country and has made several trips to Alaska. in bullet weight and energy. Will a 9mm or 38 spl kill a bear? Great advice. But the animals are wandering into populated areas more regularly in search of food. If I cant do it with that then I guess I was destined to lose that fight. So the point is simple; a wonderful collection of pistols at home wont do you any good, youll have to make do with what you have, Like the Boy Scout motto says, Be Prepared. Radically Invasive Projectile G2 ammo works! Any thoughts on this combo for bear country? Were they harder to kill then healthy racoons, no. In this case, fortunately, the uncle had time to retrieve the handgun from a vehicle. FL). No HPs! After all bears are quite well armed are they not? Attacks continued and now a lion is dead. Even for dispatching You will only have only one chance to prove fluffy wont kill you. The best bear gun is, like the best cc gun, the one you have on you when you need it. Fortunately, another adult P.J.s uncle in the party had brought a handgun along and had left it in a vehicle that was parked nearby. Which one are you going to use first? And yet if you carry an effective caliber/bullet combination for coyotes and small mountain lions, you are seriously underpowered for the big beasts in the woods. you rig will protect you. in bear country. Watch on. Colorado Parks and Wildlife said the man, identified on Thursday as 31-year-old Travis Kauffman, is "recovering well" after the self-defense attack on Feb. 4. Curiosity got the better of them, and they managed to discharge the canisters in their hotel room that night. They can be found throughout the state apart from the southeastern desert and the Central Valley. Regarding your story about the two men from California who discharged bear spray in their hotel room in their haste to try it out forcing the hotel to gut and refinish the room entirely, of course after evicting the two Californians. Hunters killed off mountain lions in the park in the 1930s but the animals moved back in during the 1980s. Little meat damage and with a WC or Semi WC will certainly do the job. A 10mm Glock is not going to be too . 9MM hollow points will kill anything in Texas short of a feral hog. The bear biologist was tracking the animals when I stepped out of the woods and she told me how close we were to the bear. 200gr LRN out of my G29 or EAA Elite Match. This gun is horrible to carry full time when it must be out of site sometimes!! A moose attacked me on my property when I first moved here, but it was because I was trying to get close enough for a good picture really DUMB! can a 38 special kill a mountain lion. Next If doing this with very heavy bullets a change in rifleing twist may be more suitable if longer ranges are expected. A large bore hot load can be a challenge to control and difficult for multiple shots, while something like a 10mm in a good semi-auto allows for powerful rounds and multiple shots rapidly fired on target for many. Mountain lions will usually stay within their own habitats and hunt for their own food sources. First shot went wild as the bear clamped down on his forearm and shook him. These lions belong there. After all that I have come to some conclusions about killing things with a handgun. Hunting and slaughtering are hardly a comparison. So if its a two shot scenario with a revolver, I can place 4 AIMED shots with my 10mm in the same amount of time. But again, as the species is protected, they were unable to carry out efforts to catch it. heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. May 12, 2018. Published on February 15, 2019 02:47 PM. Its lack of weight had me cringing at first, expecting some wrist-wrenching recoil, but I was pleasantly surprised with the manageability of the K6s. I mixed opinions about this article. Brian M.- I also did the same thing with my Glock 21 accept I started with the 45 Super cartridge. You need that big chunk of lead to penetrate deep and crush stuff as it goes. Gonna do that with a 45LC or .44 mag? feral hogs I wasnt sure if the .357 was really optimal for bear spanking as my father, a hunter and 23 year US Army Combat Veteran would say and couldnt bring myself to splurge on either 10mm or something in the .44 magnum ranges. predators, but also as a general purpose handgun. What did you have I asked, he said he had a .454 Casull in a shoulder harness. AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf. Even with the hottest 460 I find the revolver to be controllable. However, if you're going to deploy bear spray against a mountain lion, then you need to make sure of a few things. The big cats are thin skinned and not that hard to kill. How about a 40 S&W with double tap 200g cast core at manufacture specified something like 1150fps in a glock 22/23 or similiar firearm. I wouldnt recommend anything less than .44 mag or equivalent. Jul 30, 2019. Lions or parts cannot be taken out of Colorado unless inspected and sealed. I doubt that I have walked past a moose without noticing. As an outdoorsman, I enjoy being afield in all sorts of capacities. Traveling with several other people may also help discourage a bear attacking as they usually want the least confrontation unless it is a mother bear protecting her cubs. your comments hold great weight with me!! Id take the 9mm any day if it was my only 2 choices, loaded with 147 flat nose +P+ from Underwood Ammo. uh://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_title_1.1, https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/. Lets stop trying to impress each other with useless specifications and gobbly-gooky BS. of course be loaded and kept down loaded with .38 Special ammo (modern). First you start off by saying a Judge or Governor is not what you want for bear country, then end by saying you carry a Redhawk in .45 Colt for bear. Most of the time if all you are trying to do is keep the bears from attacking you, wear bells on your clothing as the old timers did. 3-6 .357 mag with 200g hardcast at 1250fps or more, depending on barrel length. Think youre gonna penetrate his skull with your pea shooter? Moutain Lions arent bear-zombie-meat-tanks. Alfredo Gonzalez, 60 . Mountain lions actually have the largest hind legs (proportionally) of all the members of the cat family. The problem is the gun. Laying out the reasonable course of events leading up to a legitimate use of force against Bears (or Lion) would make it more difficult to prosecute (IMO for political / ideological reasons) citizens who defend themselves against bear (or lion) attacks. Pretty cool! the game warden. Use a handgun. Not to be the asshole of the crowd, but a Grizzly is an Ursus arctos horribilis as opposed to just the Ursus arctos, or Brown Bear. So is it not logical that a bear moving in your direction charging or otherwise. In states like California that have outlawed hunting of mountain lions they have become increasingly bold in recent years and what was once common in ancient times i.e. courage1. By the time I am loaded with bow, backpack, and tree stand, I am at 50 plus pounds and I am 50+. A shotgun with buck shot would be handy if it is in your yard. Loaded with good ammunition, either of these Smith & Wesson .44 Magnums will make excellent bear medicine. The lion was dead before the mule Berry took and shook the lion. carry ! Ive ditch my .460 Rowland. You should also use common sense when traversing through these areas by avoiding mannerisms that could be interpreted by a bear that youre easy prey. Buy .357 magnum at the minimum. It was there all night and broke its leg, trying to get free. My point is I would have given $1,000 for any back up gun 38 or bigger. Let's dive right in. He said he was not scared of all the trips he made. Ammunition To Go : 50rds - 38 Special Federal LE 158gr. They are not fun to shoot, not fun to carry. I have concerns with shooting the higher pressure .45 LC rounds, like the Buffalo Bore 325 grain load. Even if it is based upon a reasonable extrapolation from current self defense doctrine. I can say the 41 is probably my minimum for the big bears. An interesting piece giving advice from expert typewriter shooters to bear hunters. What to do? Mine rides in a Diamond D Guides Choice model. The most significant differences between a jaguar and a mountain lion are their size, speed, and bite force. With speed loaders in the hands of a competent shooter, the revolver can be reloaded almost as quickly as a pistol. 1st Bullet passed completely through the animal head to rump. I want to be able to pump 8 to 18 rounds in his head as fast as I can. . Although the species is protected, landowners can request a special permit to catch or kill a mountain lion if it has killed livestock and caused damage. Picture yourself on your back with a bear in your face and you trying to fight him off with one hand and reaching for your gun. Mace or a .45 Colt? be utilized for small game hunting: rabbit, squirrel, and grouse. Once at night on a fishing trip in the beartooths we had a grizzly fooling around out side the tent, Out I went with my trusty .475 in one hand and a flashlight in the other. At the same time, we're trying to be as supportive and helpful to property owners as possible.". But Yes it is a bit heavy, but as said earlier.with a charging bear 8.5lbs of 458 SOCOM feels like a down pillow . That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. A 38 special? OMG! COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Ultimately, some gun is better than no gun, and too much gun that youre unable to get proficient with is a problem. A California man has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and other penalties for the killing of a protected mountain lion over the summer. Their large hind legs also make them excellent at sprinting for short distances. An exceedingly interesting question. You'd be much, much better off with bear spray. The 400gr cowboy loads are mild and I could shoot them all day. Why not? And, take the time and professional training to get to know how it feels to defend yourself in a close-combat type of scenario. The mountain lion, also called a cougar, is the largest wildcat in North America north of Mexico. Good luck It is not as if that information is widely out there ..This is part of a Strategy. He said while the animal tried to bite Pauls head, it didnt actually do it, only slightly clawing the boys back. Im somewhat challenged with smartphone technology. COME AND GET IT! Shot placement . Regarding my loads, Im partial to a 230 grain Federal Hydra-Shok jacketed hollowpoint staggered with 230-grain lead cast bullet, one following the other, the first round out of the magazine a Hydra-Shok. (I have killed or watched others kill several with an ax when I was guiding. Magnum Research 45-70 isnt bad either ! Great article, even better advise-44 mag super redhawk will be on my side when the opportunity comes my way. Keith by Buffalo Bore . Newsweek has contacted the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for comment. We killed about 5 hogs every week he shot them with 22 never saw any that didnt fall over dead. This is perfect mountain lion habitat. Hunters must contact a CPW office within 48 hours of a lion . Required fields are marked *. load of No. I agree, a 9mm is not something I would trust. If you did, you wouldnt be even considering spray or a souped up .32 pistol round as your primary weapon of bear defense Cripes, just go to zoo and imagine the zoo born and/or raised sleeping pile of fur your looking at, being really pissed off at you, or just curious, and has a closing velocity of over 30 mph. Which brings up the old but true adage. You need to shoot a few of the +Ps every Spring to remember where they are hitting. I can hit an outboard engine at 100 yards. We now have on earth more humans than were ever born since the beginning of mans evolution and with the masses of excess pollution we have already destroyed the planet we are living on. The author is right in the close terrain on of the Bitterroors, youre only going to get two shots off and the second one will be point blank. great chose but as always ,, we forget the 41 magnum.. 454=1 44=2 and that family on that show Alaska running around with them 10mm auto are waiting to be eating by a Big Brown bear. The recoil is quite severe for all of these loads and I cant imagine wanting or needing to go to the 460 Rowland! My gun will push the strong 300-grain hollowpoints to just under 1,200 fps, and thats a formula that can end a confrontation. Humans make a choice to attack you and deserve what they get. The 148 grain SC is great as long as it is a hollow base, and loaded backwards with the hollow base facing out. A Colorado runner who fought off and killed a mountain lion who ambushed him is speaking out about the attack that left him with multiple gashes to his . Both are excellent sidearms but leave something to be desired when confronting big game in the boonies. .38 special have been a huge disappointment for me. I think anybody going into bear country should read the article about bear defense guns and ammo @ garrettcartridges.com This should answer most questions on the subject. I always heard all you need is a .25 auto. Shoot, shovel, and shut up. With a double-action police type service revolver I can unload all six spent shell casings into the palm of my hand and thus I carry my Ruger SP101 357 on me always, and when camping, I have my 45-70 close by. Not totally true. That being said, I would carry both. You have to be a reloader or know a reloader to get this, but it is well worth it. Definitely not in the same category as a Mounain lion. That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. Until just a few few years ago, the largest bear ever killed was by a young girl in Alaska. 44 mag power in a high cap auto loader. CCIs classic .38 Special shot or snake The most restrictive, California State Proposition 117, passed in 1990, prohibits the killing of any mountain lion except in the case of an animal that poses a direct threat to people, pets, or . Oct. 14, 2020 6:15 PM PT. Shock Wave or the Tac-12 pistols leave a bigger hole ! How many miles can a mountain lion travel? I finally settled on attempting to use Hodgden Universal powder for the first go, since it shows the potential to give good velocity with the lighter 170-grain bullets. You combine the penetration of .45 Long Colt with the facial (and nose) disruption of a .410 shotgun shell. In Africa the wholesale slaughter of wild game was done to make room for agriculture and the safety of the farmers many of whom blasted off their feet the entire big game population for miles around. Buzz, In the springtime, when the streams are populated with fishermen, the bears are coming out of hibernation and are ravenous. Found the bullet in the other ear, Weighed 270 grains. Protect your neck, throat, and head. She attacked the 65-pound animal, striking . There is an interesting compilation of mountain lion incidents and attacks titled: Cougar Attacks & Other Incidents -2000 to date. Dogs and coyotes have one indent at the bottom of their pads. For actual hunting a big bear, 375 H&H; I guess I love the classics. What we can do is provide a framework to understand what average conditions might look like, and whether those are reasonably viable for a shot from the average shooter to harvest a cougar or mountain lion in the fewest number of shots possible, i.e., ethically. Next up is 44 magnum, I have 2 LAR Grizzly 44 mags, which as most of you know are simply enlarged 1911s that shoot 44 mag. The 4-3-1 rule is a good rule of thumb, however, I agree with the comments about a 10mm. By Anders Anglesey On 11/3/21 at 11:39 AM EDT. Its getting to be real world, daily and wont get better until folks like us step up and step forward. Deerfield, IL School Superintendent Violates Illinois Law With Gun Control Call To Action, Armed Self-Defense Chronicles: When a Detroit Doctor Defended Himself and His Family Against a Racist Mob. Just holes. Your .357 magnum should be fine and easier to get off a second shot on target. In Alaska, we not only have to deal with the common two-legged variety of vermin found in every place in the world, but also the large, four-legged beasts that can either kill and trample you with their hooves, or rip you apart with their claws and teeth; its the latter which draw hunters to the Last Frontier with high-power, large caliber rifles. Im glad she now carries the Liberty ammo. Native to the Americas, the puma, also called the mountain lion, cougar, catamount or panther, often shares its habitat with several other top predators, such as wolves, bears, coyotes and jaguars. pistol. Thats why I would always plan to have with me.a friend who could not run as fast as me!!!!! coastal brown bear looks like at a distance of 50-75 feet! 296) Alan and Alex are correct. Its certainly not the lightest sidearm weighing in at just over 3 pounds, fully loaded in its holster but when Im forced to enter bear country, I have absolutely no worries. About ten years ago I killed a threatening brown/black bear with a .357 from an SP101 snubby. A man accused of taking part in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot is now facing house arrest for killing a mountain lion in Colorado - with a gun he wasn't supposed to have.. Patrick Montgomery was . I have a short barrel S&W 629 that Ken Kelly modified. Most exhibit the same irrational fear of bears as the rest of the country and irrational fear does little to generate rational ideas. mountain lion primarily subsists on large ungulates, small mammals including porcupine, hares and rabbits, ground squirrels, and beaver may also supplement its diet. Hollow points sacrifice penetration for larger wound channel . That being said I would never recommend a .22 for bear protection or hunting. Carry a 5 S&W 500 loaded with 700 gr hardcast from Ballistic Supply. You can keep your semi-autos and single action revolvers. A 22 may kill a mountain lion, but a 44 magnum will kill their soul as well. But in advanced Industrialized Countries your a dying bread of cat. and when was the last time you saw a wolves, let alone a bear.?????? Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. i think a .38 would tickle the bear more than anything. Cue the whining about how much of a shame it is to kill such a majestic animal. Let us know via nature@newsweek.com. A single bite around the throat from a mountain lion can be fatal to prey . What I really love I the light weight of the Blackhawk, its great in a shoulder rig. 1988 a Montana Fish and Game Officer utilized same handgun to dispatch a Grizzly Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. They invited me out and told me that if I go, be forewarned that there are grizzlies about. Caliber: 357 or better. The bullet entered at the last rib on the right side and ripped through diagonally and lodged in the base of the neck on the left side. An old farm fence stopped the bear at 11 yards and gave me the chance to get that cap on. I carried a 454 casull in Alaska heavy l now carry a glock 20 10mm 15 rounds even if I dont stop the bear shooting all the way to the end just makes me fell better. If it was acting as weird as they say, they were idiots for not assuming that it was rabid. +P Semi-Wadcutter HP Ammo [38G] - $20.95 Or if you are really recoil sensitive these would work pretty well, non-plus p and low velocity. All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: A starting load of 3.9 grains was decided on, and the first rounds were loaded up. There are some real men out there who have seen a bear in a zoo and have shot their 500 SW 4 times 6 years ago. why dont you buy a BB gun for backup. I have had very good luck with both the 45 colt and 454 with 335gr. The group was less than four inches and the ammo was full-power Winchester factory loads so it was full recoil. It has a 1 7/8-inch barrel and a five-shot cylinder in the classic snub-nosed configuration and wears a set of Pachmayr grips, which feel better than the standard J-Frame grips in my hands. Something that wants to eat me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... 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